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		<title>Comment on SOLD &#8212; Elaine&#8217;s Gyno Exam Table for sale by Mendoza_ar</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2010/elaines-gyno-exam-table-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-18200</link>
		<dc:creator>Mendoza_ar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am interested... where are you located?  </description>
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		<title>Comment on Random, I&#8217;ll miss you. by Bet Cecill</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2011/random-ill-miss-you/comment-page-1/#comment-18198</link>
		<dc:creator>Bet Cecill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m a bit behind the times...just ran across this...made me cry it did...and made me think of Sasha ..and of you-it&#039;s been too long...big hugs Bet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m a bit behind the times&#8230;just ran across this&#8230;made me cry it did&#8230;and made me think of Sasha ..and of you-it&#8217;s been too long&#8230;big hugs Bet</p>
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		<title>Comment on Replace Notepad with Metapad on Windows 7 (64-bit) by Jake Ortman</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2010/replace-notepad-with-metapad-on-windows-7-64-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-18196</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Ortman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome. Thanks for this. Thought I was losing my mind trying to get this work. I, too, have been using metapad since Windows 98, and just got a new x64 laptop. Thanks for your help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Thanks for this. Thought I was losing my mind trying to get this work. I, too, have been using metapad since Windows 98, and just got a new x64 laptop. Thanks for your help!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Danielle Macdonell</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18194</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle Macdonell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rikki&#039;s the new chair of the NLA-I Domestic Violence Project.

https://fetlife.com/groups/1377/group_posts/2207953?utm_campaign=notifications&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=new_group_discussion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rikki&#8217;s the new chair of the NLA-I Domestic Violence Project.</p>
<p><a href="https://fetlife.com/groups/1377/group_posts/2207953?utm_campaign=notifications&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_source=new_group_discussion" >https://fetlife.com/groups/1377/group_posts/2207953?utm_campaign=notifications&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_source=new_group_discussion</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Bootblackjack</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18193</link>
		<dc:creator>Bootblackjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically I was watching an interview of IMSL 1996 title
holder Jill Carter about a month ago and found several things to be well
thought out and enlightening.  Concerning
this forum she commented on how as a community we have allowed bitters into our
midst and as a community we need to weed them out.  Then again at a community forum the topic of people
being bitten and problem folks came up. 
It was agreed that another time to discuss the topic be chosen as some
folks were uncomfortable.  Personally, I
found myself discussing the topic outside the group because it is one that I have
strong feelings about.



I am a bit of a history buff and what I see happening in our
community, to me, strongly resembles the days of old when women were publicly humiliated
or even imprisoned, if they spoke out about being bitten.  In fact what we call biting now was in some
cases considered a man’s god given right and even encouraged.  In the Catholic Church, in the past and unfortunately
in a few situations today, children were bitten by priests.  Only to have the church either cover it up or
“encourage” the family of the bitten to silence the child as it was what was “best”
for all involved.  It is a bit unnerving
to think the kink community seems to be leaning towards handling our problem of
biting individuals in a similar fashion.  



I understand that because of the nature of or community we
are put in an unfortunate place of having very few ways to protect ourselves or
those that have been bitten or preyed upon. 
The course of action seems to be a reliance on the integrity all
involved.  Talk of elders and leaders
being relied upon to police and monitor those that are suspect always seem to
come to the forefront. I agree with this, unfortunately the community seems to
chew up and spit out so many of them. Leaving us with a shortage of those that
not only can be trusted, but will have the majority support.  Allowing them to do what is needed. 



I am so thankful that Elaine has created this forum.  Hopefully it will be a place that as a community
we can take the first steps to protect our own and provide healing and a safer
place for those that we could not.



On a side note I just thought I would add that my thoughts
and words on this subject were not influenced in anyway by anyone including my
Ma’am.



Respectfully in Leather


Bootblackjack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically I was watching an interview of IMSL 1996 title<br />
holder Jill Carter about a month ago and found several things to be well<br />
thought out and enlightening.  Concerning<br />
this forum she commented on how as a community we have allowed bitters into our<br />
midst and as a community we need to weed them out.  Then again at a community forum the topic of people<br />
being bitten and problem folks came up. <br />
It was agreed that another time to discuss the topic be chosen as some<br />
folks were uncomfortable.  Personally, I<br />
found myself discussing the topic outside the group because it is one that I have<br />
strong feelings about.</p>
<p>I am a bit of a history buff and what I see happening in our<br />
community, to me, strongly resembles the days of old when women were publicly humiliated<br />
or even imprisoned, if they spoke out about being bitten.  In fact what we call biting now was in some<br />
cases considered a man’s god given right and even encouraged.  In the Catholic Church, in the past and unfortunately<br />
in a few situations today, children were bitten by priests.  Only to have the church either cover it up or<br />
“encourage” the family of the bitten to silence the child as it was what was “best”<br />
for all involved.  It is a bit unnerving<br />
to think the kink community seems to be leaning towards handling our problem of<br />
biting individuals in a similar fashion.  </p>
<p>I understand that because of the nature of or community we<br />
are put in an unfortunate place of having very few ways to protect ourselves or<br />
those that have been bitten or preyed upon. <br />
The course of action seems to be a reliance on the integrity all<br />
involved.  Talk of elders and leaders<br />
being relied upon to police and monitor those that are suspect always seem to<br />
come to the forefront. I agree with this, unfortunately the community seems to<br />
chew up and spit out so many of them. Leaving us with a shortage of those that<br />
not only can be trusted, but will have the majority support.  Allowing them to do what is needed. </p>
<p>I am so thankful that Elaine has created this forum.  Hopefully it will be a place that as a community<br />
we can take the first steps to protect our own and provide healing and a safer<br />
place for those that we could not.</p>
<p>On a side note I just thought I would add that my thoughts<br />
and words on this subject were not influenced in anyway by anyone including my<br />
Ma’am.</p>
<p>Respectfully in Leather</p>
<p>Bootblackjack</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dungeon Etiquette &#8211; A Primer by Elaine Miller by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/writing/2010/dungeon-etiquette-a-primer-by-elaine-miller/comment-page-1/#comment-18186</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, asking the DM (I dont mean to repeat myself so often) if there&#039;s a greeter for the party can help. 
See, theres often someone who&#039;s a warm friendly sort, and well-known in the dungeon,  who wouldn&#039;t mind spending a bit of time with you, explaining (quietly) what&#039;s going on in various scenes. 
If appropriate, this person might even (though do NOT expect such a thing) have someone in mind who might have matching tastes. &quot;Fred, you have been dying to try being paddled? I know George is here with a brand new paddle and is looking for someone to try it out on, why don&#039;t I introduce you two?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, asking the DM (I dont mean to repeat myself so often) if there&#8217;s a greeter for the party can help.<br />
See, theres often someone who&#8217;s a warm friendly sort, and well-known in the dungeon,  who wouldn&#8217;t mind spending a bit of time with you, explaining (quietly) what&#8217;s going on in various scenes.<br />
If appropriate, this person might even (though do NOT expect such a thing) have someone in mind who might have matching tastes. &#8220;Fred, you have been dying to try being paddled? I know George is here with a brand new paddle and is looking for someone to try it out on, why don&#8217;t I introduce you two?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dungeon Etiquette &#8211; A Primer by Elaine Miller by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/writing/2010/dungeon-etiquette-a-primer-by-elaine-miller/comment-page-1/#comment-18185</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, those who are on Fetlife might enjoy reading this (super funny):

How *Not* To Be A Douche In The Dungeon
https://fetlife.com/users/40602/posts/507718</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, those who are on Fetlife might enjoy reading this (super funny):</p>
<p>How *Not* To Be A Douche In The Dungeon<br />
<a href="https://fetlife.com/users/40602/posts/507718" >https://fetlife.com/users/40602/posts/507718</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18180</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blogwasred.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/always-wear-a-seatbelt/
tags: feminism, patriarchy, rape, rape culture, victim blaming</description>
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tags: feminism, patriarchy, rape, rape culture, victim blaming</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18179</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to Not Rape People, in 7 easy steps
http://benpobjie.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-not-to-rape-people-handy-guide-for.html

I&#039;m sorry, I&#039;ll work up a way to do these links in tidy way, I will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to Not Rape People, in 7 easy steps<br />
<a href="http://benpobjie.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-not-to-rape-people-handy-guide-for.html" >http://benpobjie.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-not-to-rape-people-handy-guide-for.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I&#8217;ll work up a way to do these links in tidy way, I will.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18178</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found this...     http://www.kinkabuse.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found this&#8230;     <a href="http://www.kinkabuse.com/" >http://www.kinkabuse.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18177</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a powerful lot of smart in them there links, which doesnt surprise me since I noticed long ago that Andrea Zanin has a beautiful brain. (smile)

Now, how do we plot getting the lady here to share that wisdom in person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a powerful lot of smart in them there links, which doesnt surprise me since I noticed long ago that Andrea Zanin has a beautiful brain. (smile)</p>
<p>Now, how do we plot getting the lady here to share that wisdom in person?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18176</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do we do when our friends stay in abusive relationships?

Do we stay silent on the topic, and keep passing out the ice packs, and driving them to the cliinic?
Do we tell them that if they choose to stay, we can no longer support that choice, and to call us when they&#039;re done being chewed on?
Do we stay and pass the literature and attempt to convince them to leave?
Do we bring brass knucks to an extended heart-to-heart conversation with the abuser?
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do we do when our friends stay in abusive relationships?</p>
<p>Do we stay silent on the topic, and keep passing out the ice packs, and driving them to the cliinic?<br />
Do we tell them that if they choose to stay, we can no longer support that choice, and to call us when they&#8217;re done being chewed on?<br />
Do we stay and pass the literature and attempt to convince them to leave?<br />
Do we bring brass knucks to an extended heart-to-heart conversation with the abuser?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18175</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I&#039;m thinking of this as a framework of discussion, I&#039;ll still be all crazy with the outlines.

See, we want collectively (I assume) to reduce/end the harm caused by abuse in our community. 

Most approaches start with prevention.
- education
- outreach
In other words, reach as many folks as you can. Tell them how to stay safe, tell them how to recognize abuse, tell them how to negotiate, let folk know it&#039;s OKAY to say no to something.

Then we move on to reduction of existing harm:
-education
-resources
-encouragement
-support for the bitten
In other words, here&#039;s how to recognise that you&#039;re being abused. Here&#039;s some ways you can flee the relationship safely. Here are some legal  FRO forms (fuck right off), like restraining orders, etc. Here&#039;s where you can go to be supported in your pain.

All these pieces, at the moment, have to do with addressing the folks who get bitten. Not so much the biters.

Yet if Zenobia, an abusive type, bites Abigail until she flees, and then bites Bonnie until she leaves, and then chews on Cathy for a bit....  we don&#039;t have a model for reducing harm in this instance, and we can see that Zenobia is working her way through the alphabet of lovers. That&#039;s a fuck of a lot of damage, both to the women being abused, but also to the close folks around all of the people involved.

What do we do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m thinking of this as a framework of discussion, I&#8217;ll still be all crazy with the outlines.</p>
<p>See, we want collectively (I assume) to reduce/end the harm caused by abuse in our community. </p>
<p>Most approaches start with prevention.<br />
- education<br />
- outreach<br />
In other words, reach as many folks as you can. Tell them how to stay safe, tell them how to recognize abuse, tell them how to negotiate, let folk know it&#8217;s OKAY to say no to something.</p>
<p>Then we move on to reduction of existing harm:<br />
-education<br />
-resources<br />
-encouragement<br />
-support for the bitten<br />
In other words, here&#8217;s how to recognise that you&#8217;re being abused. Here&#8217;s some ways you can flee the relationship safely. Here are some legal  FRO forms (fuck right off), like restraining orders, etc. Here&#8217;s where you can go to be supported in your pain.</p>
<p>All these pieces, at the moment, have to do with addressing the folks who get bitten. Not so much the biters.</p>
<p>Yet if Zenobia, an abusive type, bites Abigail until she flees, and then bites Bonnie until she leaves, and then chews on Cathy for a bit&#8230;.  we don&#8217;t have a model for reducing harm in this instance, and we can see that Zenobia is working her way through the alphabet of lovers. That&#8217;s a fuck of a lot of damage, both to the women being abused, but also to the close folks around all of the people involved.</p>
<p>What do we do?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Samantha</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18174</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why my post showed up below instead of in response to your message here, Elaine, but I&#039;ll try again - I&#039;d said: 

There is a good &quot;You might be abused if...&quot; section in this pamphlet for kinky folks: http://www.avp.org/documents/smvabuseforcommunity.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why my post showed up below instead of in response to your message here, Elaine, but I&#8217;ll try again &#8211; I&#8217;d said: </p>
<p>There is a good &#8220;You might be abused if&#8230;&#8221; section in this pamphlet for kinky folks: <a href="http://www.avp.org/documents/smvabuseforcommunity.pdf" >http://www.avp.org/documents/smvabuseforcommunity.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Once Bitten&#8230; Abuse within the SM community, an incomplete conversation. by Samantha</title>
		<link>http://elainemiller.com/blog/2012/once-bitten-abuse-within-the-sm-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18173</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrea Zanin wrote a couple of really great, thought provoking blog posts on this subject. The first includes &quot;6 ways to think about abuse&quot;, and the second, &quot;10 things to do to reduce abusive behaviour in the s/m world&quot;.

#4 in her first list resonated for me; I feel it is very important. She suggests: &quot;Take an approach that’s about an ethics of care and empowerment rather 
than an ethics of protection, defense or punishment. Ask the question: 
how can we best care for each other within our community? NOT how can we
 best defend ourselves and protect our own? There is a big difference.&quot;

http://sexgeek.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/abuse-among-the-kinky-part-1-6-ways-to-think-about-abuse/

http://sexgeek.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/abuse-among-the-kinky-part-2-10-things-to-do-to-reduce-abusive-behaviour-in-the-sm-world/

Thinking and listening. 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea Zanin wrote a couple of really great, thought provoking blog posts on this subject. The first includes &#8220;6 ways to think about abuse&#8221;, and the second, &#8220;10 things to do to reduce abusive behaviour in the s/m world&#8221;.</p>
<p>#4 in her first list resonated for me; I feel it is very important. She suggests: &#8220;Take an approach that’s about an ethics of care and empowerment rather<br />
than an ethics of protection, defense or punishment. Ask the question:<br />
how can we best care for each other within our community? NOT how can we<br />
 best defend ourselves and protect our own? There is a big difference.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://sexgeek.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/abuse-among-the-kinky-part-1-6-ways-to-think-about-abuse/" >http://sexgeek.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/abuse-among-the-kinky-part-1-6-ways-to-think-about-abuse/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://sexgeek.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/abuse-among-the-kinky-part-2-10-things-to-do-to-reduce-abusive-behaviour-in-the-sm-world/" >http://sexgeek.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/abuse-among-the-kinky-part-2-10-things-to-do-to-reduce-abusive-behaviour-in-the-sm-world/</a></p>
<p>Thinking and listening. </p>
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